Friday, January 23, 2009

Let's Talk About Sex

The lovely Dana of Amid Life's Crises recently shared the story of a church conference she attended with her son that addressed adolescents and sexuality, how to help your children navigate a world that bombards them with sexual images and information, and also included the signing of a list of Purity Promises.

I applaud any parent who is proactive in this regard, and Dana and I, and I'm sure many of you, are fans of the balanced approach. Promote abstinence, but provide realistic information.

There were two comments in particular made on that post that got my attention. I'll summarize and give you the gist, but won't name names. Most people don't comment on someone's blog expecting another commenter to take their words and run with it. These are just my thoughts based on what I read.

Being vague, while still conveying all of the pertinent information, is going to require rubbing more than two brain cells together... *deep breath*

A blogger commented that she had given her daughters a symbol of their commitment to Christ, and that the intention was that it would someday be replaced by their future husbands with a similar symbol representing that commitment. The blogger conveyed her desire to the girls that they wait until they were in a committed relationship to have sex. She finished it up with the statement "Ultimately, the choice was theirs..."

I see some contradictions in the sentiments that were conveyed to the girls, and I see the potential for deception and guilt. I'm speaking in general terms, because I know absolutely nothing about this blogger's family or relationship with her daughters. All I know is my own history, and my reaction is based on that.

It's the symbol that's bothering me. An outward symbol, worn for all the world to see, that implies purity. Not because the individual was motivated and sought it out, but because a parent, someone most children want to please, gave it to them with specific instructions. Instructions that seem to equate "waiting for a committed relationship" with "waiting for marriage." What if her daughter doesn't marry until well into adulthood? Is she expected to abstain until then? What if she's over 18 and decides to enter into a sexual relationship outside of marriage? What happens to that purity symbol? Take it off, thereby announcing to all who are aware of it's significance that she is no longer "pure?" Continue to wear it so as not to disappoint her parents?

How do we define "committed?" Personally, I hate that term. Don't we all want to think our relationships are committed? Who makes that call? What's the criteria? It's a subjective term, and therefore, in my mind, fails to meet the qualifications for a legitimate yardstick.

"Ultimately, the choice was theirs..." Was it? Of course, however a lot of parents (not saying this one in particular is one of those) state that there is a choice, but really mean something else. The spoken message, "You have a choice," is really the unspoken message, "You have a choice, BUT..." BUT, if you don't choose *my* choice, you'll disappoint me. Ouch.

The second comment, one that Dana addressed today, was one that implied that it may be hypocritical to relate our experiences while expressing a desire that our children not follow in our footsteps. The "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.

I personally feel that if I am not honest with my children about my past, then I am setting them up. To give the impression that I am perfect may make them afraid to come to me when they screw up. I say "when" because they will at some point, in some way. Accepting that prevents me from setting myself up for disappointment. It does not say "G'head, screw up."

My son is his own person. My daughter is her own person. I have never had any preconceived notions of who they will be. I will absolutely attempt to steer them away from decisions that I perceive to be harmful at the present time, or in the long run.

But, ultimately, the choice is theirs. And I mean exactly that.

13 humored me by saying something:

Dan said...

I agree that our kids are their own people - sometimes at a very young age. To treat them any different is indeed to be set up for disappointment.

I also agree that kids need to feel comfortable in talking when they do indeed screw up. I'm not sure that we as parents have to tell them that we aren't perfect - that is what grandparents specialize in.

Suthnuh said...

Fantastic post. This whole purity ritual thing that's been developing over the last decade is just plain weird.

I'm with you. Fully arm our kids with love, knowledge and understanding. There's nothing we can do to stop them because we can't watch them 23/7. The best we can do is equip them to make the decision.

It's like Crosby Stills & Nash said:

Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.

Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

Suthnuh said...

er... 24/7

Fu Manchu Dad said...

This is a subject that I deal with constantly as I have faced it, and will be facing it several more times. My wife and I try hard to teach our kids the rewards and consequences of everything. We are reasonably honest about our own mistakes, with drinking, drugs and sex (and whatever else is necessary) without going into details. It's not really their business and they certainly don't need to get the idea that just because you did it, that it's ok. But it also serves no purpose to pretend that you did everything right either. I think that agreements between kids and parents can be a good thing. Tying these agreements to symbols, such as rings and crosses, can be problematic, as you said due to displaying it and the stigma that goes with failure. It's not the business of anybody other than kid and parent, what you agree to and whether or not the kid stumbles. It really comes down to being really honest with kids about real life and all its joys and trials. The balanced approach applies to so much more than sex. As my dad used to say, "I can teach you right from wrong, but I can't follow you around everywhere to make sure you pick the right one" That has always served me well. Have my kids been perfect? Hell, no, but nobody's kids have, and I feel safe that whatever they do, they are as well prepared for things as I could possibly make them.
FMD

Don said...

Thanks for dealing with this subject in such a thoughtful way. I added my own thoughts on my own blog.

we're doomed said...

Well said, Biscuit.

Dana said...

Well, you know how I feel about it!

Right now - with Cam being 12 - I am leaning towards the "purity" with proper safer sex teachings mode. In no way have I said this was a life-long commitment - it's a right here - right now thing.

My plan is for Cam an I to look at these promises each year and reevaluate them - decide where our priorities are.

Do I think discussing purity with our kids is creepy? Not at all - in fact I think it's critical that kids know our expectations. Purity jewelry? I understand and respect the thought behind it, but it's not my thing.

I'm just glad I got people talking about this. The statistics on middle schoolers (remember, these are kids 11-13) having sex are terrifying. It used to be you had to worry about pregnancy (which, rather than being a status symbol was actually shameful) and *gasp* herpes. Now, you are risking your life ...

Biscuit said...

Dan- Yes, you can always count on your own parents to out you to your kids!

Suthnuh- I think, in general, girls who have a strong relationship with their father are less likely to make bad choices regarding boys and sex, but I think there are other ways to foster that bond than a single-minded focus on virginity, which is basically what the Purity Balls amount to. When you tell a girl that she belongs to her father until she belongs to a husband, you have essentially said that she is inferior and that her sexuality doesn't belong to her.

Biscuit said...

FMD- SnB and I discussed the "how much" aspect of being honest. We agreed that answering questions as they come, appropriate to the maturity of the child, honestly but without invading our own privacy or someone else's, is the way to go. Between the two of us, we covered the spectrum of mistakes, though I suffered more consequences than he did. I suppose that is why this is so important to me.

Don- I had read statistics similar to those you posted on your blog. It all comes back to balance.

We're Doomed- Thank you. It took me over 4 hours to put those thoughts together. *LOL*

Dana- Before I forget, I agree with what you said on Don's blog. Abstinence is getting a bad rap, which is unfortunate because it IS the only option that is completely safe. The statistics on middle schoolers is horrifying.

Reevaluating the promises every year is a great way to go, and so much more realistic. What is appropriate for a 12 year old boy or girl might not be appropriate a few years down the road. Unrealistic expectations are bound to have negative results of some kind.

thehipster said...

I like your blog today.

I just wanted to say I agree with your point of view on this subject. I was raised by forward thinking parents who made sure I knew age appropiate info and that they expected me to "wait." I was the most sexually informed person I knew when it came to the medical specifics. I've always believed that knowledge will detur people from making the wrong decision. That's why I waited until I was 18
and out of High School. Hormones eventually won the arguement, but practicing safe sex was all important too.

TUG said...

ahhh, the stuff I'm not looking forward too!

I'd like to think I'll be able to be honest, provide the kids with the knowledge to do what is right and protect themselves (and their partner). I know I'll do better than what was done with me...aka ignore the issue and it doesn't exist.

It's also a different world and that will make a difference for the kids as well.

Suthnuh said...

This discussion could definitely continue for a long time. Everyone has added well articulated feelings on the subject, and we all seem to be on the same page.

Though on the topic of the "Purity Balls", I have to say they are just plain wrong. Even from a "Christian" standpoint. There's nothing in the Bible that describes daughters taking vows with their fathers. I find it extremely disturbing psychologically. The ramifications of a father and daughter taking vows to each other is... well... Sigmund Freud would have a field day with it! It's beyond even the Oedipus Complex.

I'm also a firm believer in "Newton's Laws of Motion" "To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction." Speaking in general terms, psychologically the adolescent desire to break free and to not be told what they can and can't do is increased the tighter you try to restrain it.

It's the old adage about the preachers kid being the most rebellious.

And what about social stigma? I firmly believe in standing out in a crowd, and not giving in to peer pressure, but growing up is hard enough without placing a burden like "Purity" openly to public view and potential ridicule. Just like prayer, it's a private matter and parents should not be forcing that type of public proclamation on children.

I know without a doubt that the result in at least some of those cases will be a young girl suffering ridicule to an extreme, resulting in emotional turmoil, and psychological damage that could prevent her from developing socially in a normal way. Meaning she could become phobic about social interactions and overly sensitized about disagreement, agression, or conflict, and well... the list goes on.

To make my long story longer... It's just not right.

Samantha Alice said...

very well said